Parerea unui grup despre aceasta predica. Dar atentie ca ei sustin mantuirea universala, o alta extrema:
http://www.thepathoftruth.com/teachings/lazarus.htm
Invatatura de minte (nu ca "sabellismul" propus de Marcellus ar fi "mai breaz")
Daca e s-o luam de buna (si de ce n-am face-o) marturia lui Marcellus al Ankirei despre convingerea "arienilor", cam miroase un fel de dogmatica trinitara subordinationista:
(Cine e interesat sa si-o traduca)
"Now with the heresy of the Ariomaniacs, which has corrupted the Church of God... These then teach three hypostases, just as Valentinus the heresiarch first invented in the book entitled by him 'On the Three Natures'. For he was the first to invent three hypostases and three persons of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and he is discovered to have filched this from Hermes and Plato." [10]
Since Valentinus had used the term hypostases, his name came up in the Arian disputes in the fourth century. Marcellus of Ancyra, who was a staunch opponent of Arianism but also denounced the belief in God existing in three hypostases as heretical (and was later condemned for his views)[dubious – discuss][citation needed], attacked his opponents (On the Holy Church, 9) by linking them to Valentinus:
"Valentinus, the leader of a sect, was the first to devise the notion of three subsistent entities (hypostases), in a work that he entitled On the Three Natures. For, he devised the notion of three subsistent entities and three persons — father, son, and holy spirit."[11] It should be noted that the Nag Hammadi library Sethian text Trimorphic Protennoia identifies Gnosticism as professing Father, Son and feminine wisdom Sophia or as Professor John D Turner denotes, God the Father, Sophia the Mother, and Logos the Son." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentinus_(Gnostic)
Adeptii lui Macedonius, probabil o grupare de "arieni", au sustinut ideea ca duhul sfant este o persoana creata de Fiul si subordonat lui:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumatomachi
Articole despre duhul sfant
(nu fac parte si nu sunt simpatizant - adica membru in devenire - al gruparii care a scris articolele (United Church of God), in unele privinte gandesc diferit ca ei, dar faptul cum descriu ei duhul sfant este biblic)
http://www.ucg.org/the-good-news/the-holy-spirit-gods-power-at-work
Alte articole
http://www.ucg.org/search?query=Articles%20about%20the%20holy%20spirit
Daca e s-o luam de buna (si de ce n-am face-o) marturia lui Marcellus al Ankirei despre convingerea "arienilor", cam miroase un fel de dogmatica trinitara subordinationista:
(Cine e interesat sa si-o traduca)
"Now with the heresy of the Ariomaniacs, which has corrupted the Church of God... These then teach three hypostases, just as Valentinus the heresiarch first invented in the book entitled by him 'On the Three Natures'. For he was the first to invent three hypostases and three persons of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and he is discovered to have filched this from Hermes and Plato." [10]
Since Valentinus had used the term hypostases, his name came up in the Arian disputes in the fourth century. Marcellus of Ancyra, who was a staunch opponent of Arianism but also denounced the belief in God existing in three hypostases as heretical (and was later condemned for his views)[dubious – discuss][citation needed], attacked his opponents (On the Holy Church, 9) by linking them to Valentinus:
"Valentinus, the leader of a sect, was the first to devise the notion of three subsistent entities (hypostases), in a work that he entitled On the Three Natures. For, he devised the notion of three subsistent entities and three persons — father, son, and holy spirit."[11] It should be noted that the Nag Hammadi library Sethian text Trimorphic Protennoia identifies Gnosticism as professing Father, Son and feminine wisdom Sophia or as Professor John D Turner denotes, God the Father, Sophia the Mother, and Logos the Son." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valentinus_(Gnostic)
Adeptii lui Macedonius, probabil o grupare de "arieni", au sustinut ideea ca duhul sfant este o persoana creata de Fiul si subordonat lui:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumatomachi
Articole despre duhul sfant
(nu fac parte si nu sunt simpatizant - adica membru in devenire - al gruparii care a scris articolele (United Church of God), in unele privinte gandesc diferit ca ei, dar faptul cum descriu ei duhul sfant este biblic)
Just What is the Holy Spirit?
http://www.ucg.org/the-good-news/just-what-is-the-holy-spirit
The Holy Spirit
God's Power at Work
Alte articole
http://www.ucg.org/search?query=Articles%20about%20the%20holy%20spirit
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